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chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the fact is that in the right-to-work states, unemployment is 6.9%. >> we have a graphic that shows right-to-work vs. non-right to work statements on employment, go ahead. >> and in the other stays the non-right-to-work it's 8.7. so you can choose to have fewer workers who enjoy higher inflated unnatural, if you like, wangs on uncompetitive wages. or competitive wages and more people employed. more people with the dignity of a job and less unemployment. more taxation and more activity. i think it's it the right choice bu
chrysler now twice. we see that in the southern states where the transplants are without the unions. they weren't the ones who went bankrupt last -- in 2008 and 2009. so it really is a choice. it's a tough choice. and i sympathize with the unions but the fact is that in the global economy where you have to compete on wages and other elements, of the units of production, can you either have, you know, high wages with low employment or you can, as obama would say, spread around the wealth. the...
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>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in court. the arbitrator is like the judge, and arbitrator said these guys deserve their jobs back. now in the statement that chrysler said -- gave me, they said this happened during their off-duty time. so technically, i guess, they were not paid. even the uaw has rules where it says they don't tolerate alcohol and drugs in the workplace, but these guys were in their off-duty time them. spent their lunch getting high, having a good time, then going back to work. so i don't know. >> what was it like when you first happened upon the scene? take me back to that moment
>> well, this is a situation where chrysler fired the workers. they were embarrassed by the video of course. it went national. it went international. they fired the 13 guys pretty quickly, because they wanted to send a message that, you know, this is not the image that chrysler wants. so they fired these guys quickly. then it goes through the arbitration process. took two years. chrysler hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. the uaw hired a bunch of lawyers, i assume. they battle it out in...
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chrysler rehiring union workers it fired after very public embarrassing incident. why the turn around? >> a local television statement had videotape of these workers on a break looking like they were smoking pot, drinking. this is a very public story in detroit. people were outraged saying, look, there is the problem with you with the union workers. they violate terms. they went to mediator and the mediator said, can you prove they were smoebing pot? ? no. can you prove they were drinking alcohol? no. so the mediator said you have to rehire them. chrysler is not happy. they put out a statement saying, yes, he had to rehire the employees. while the company does not agree with the ultimate decision of the arbitrator, we respect the grievance process as outlined in the collective bargaining agreement and our relationship with the uaw. these workers are going back on the job. but this is the kind of thing in detroit people look at and say, give me a break. these guys were caught doing something on camera that was clearly maybe not legally could be proven to be wrong, b
chrysler rehiring union workers it fired after very public embarrassing incident. why the turn around? >> a local television statement had videotape of these workers on a break looking like they were smoking pot, drinking. this is a very public story in detroit. people were outraged saying, look, there is the problem with you with the union workers. they violate terms. they went to mediator and the mediator said, can you prove they were smoebing pot? ? no. can you prove they were drinking...
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chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon. so he did get away. most viewed youtube video ever and smash hit in the u.s. did the gangnam style rapper once wish death to american soldiers? ♪ gangnam style ♪ >> by the way gangnam is the wealthest area of south korea. back in 2004, rapper psy called for slow and painful death for soldiers in iraq and their families. he has recently apologized and set to perform for the president during a christmas special which tapes tomorrow in washington. an online petition asks that psy be removed from the show but that petition has since been taken down. the president still
chrysler said it disagrees with the decision but it wants to move forward. a suspect in texas not letting a little thing like handcuffs. take a look. guy stealing the cop tar while handcuff. see darren douglas porter sneak into the driver's seat after rolling down the rear window which isn't supposed to roll down. cops were talking to one another. and about some store that he allegedly burglarized and 41-year-old abandoned the car a few blocks away. cops are confident they will catch him soon....
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it owns the land beneath the chrysler building, but the school says it's operating at a loss and the shortfall has to come from somewhere, including from the students. never mind what the school's founder and namesake said about a free education for any student. if you know anything about students, you know the evolving school tuition policy has not been accepted by the student body. they did not shrug and say, oh, well, before stopping in for a student loan application. instead right now they're staging a sit-in. they barricaded themselves inside an eighth floor rook in the clock tower where lincoln spoke on that legendary night. they've been there since monday setting up camp. we're here, we're staying, we forgot coffee. they demanded the school, quote, publicly affirm its commitment to free education. this morning another group of students invited themselves to the meeting of the board of trustees so they could take minutes arguing they needed transparency and student involvement. students are fighting against rising tuition costs. these guys are fighting to remain one of the few
it owns the land beneath the chrysler building, but the school says it's operating at a loss and the shortfall has to come from somewhere, including from the students. never mind what the school's founder and namesake said about a free education for any student. if you know anything about students, you know the evolving school tuition policy has not been accepted by the student body. they did not shrug and say, oh, well, before stopping in for a student loan application. instead right now...
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he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working conditions. we shouldn't be doing that. you know -- [ cheering and applause ] you know, these so-called right-to-work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is what the president is talking about. a union membership goes down. as it goes down, all middle class income shrinks. without collective bargaining, workers lose the power to demand better wages. this is a direct attack on the middle class. >> you only have to look to michigan, where workers were instrume
he had been scheduled to help announce daimler chrysler's factory expansion outside detroit. president obama took the opportunity to tell the workers and michigan republican leaders where he stands on union busting. >> we should do everything we can to encourage companies like daimler to keep investing in american workers. and by the way, what we shouldn't do -- i just got to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to bargain for better wages or working...
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there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make michigan a right to work state. that's going to have a big impact down the road. >> i like that. i like the failure idea. free market capitalism is about success and failure. and as the great free market capitalist nobel prize winner wrote, of the two, doc, sometimes failure teaches us more than success. i like your point very, very much. all right. doc thompson coming out of detroit, thanks very much. >>> now let's talk about the cuts plan for the federal workforce. with the countdown to the fiscal cliff at 24 days, the "washington post" reporting today that federal agencies are sharpening their plans befo
there's no money in the federal till to bail out detroit, especially after we bailed out gm and chrysler already. >> larry, i say let it fail. i'm sorry. you have. to i want those people to have local control. they fought for that local control. they should have a vote. the citizens of the city of detroit should have a vote. but it should fail when it goes wrong. that's what has to happen. the good news is we've now got in michigan as of yesterday we've got legislation pass today make...
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meanwhile, president obama will visit a chrysler plant just outside detroit today. remember, a city council woman last week said the city deserves a federal bailout because the city helped reelect the president. >> after the election of jimmy carter, the honorable coleman alexander young, he went to washington d.c., and came back home with some bacon. stuart: well, you heard the rest from there. the lady goes on to say it's a quid pro quo give us the monny because we voted for you. the question, will the president offer any hint of a bailout, bailout help for deeroit today. will he address union anger at michigan's right to work legislation? this goes to the heart of government spending and the position of organized labor in president obama's second term. we're right there in michigan. let's go to facebook. weigh in on what's happening there. will detroit get a bailout and what do you think about the unions? will they win? good questions all. now, one of the worst blowouts in nfl history. seattle seahawks beat arizona cardinals 58-0. the cardinals threw four interce
meanwhile, president obama will visit a chrysler plant just outside detroit today. remember, a city council woman last week said the city deserves a federal bailout because the city helped reelect the president. >> after the election of jimmy carter, the honorable coleman alexander young, he went to washington d.c., and came back home with some bacon. stuart: well, you heard the rest from there. the lady goes on to say it's a quid pro quo give us the monny because we voted for you. the...
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they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money, that is fantastic, that is your constitutional right. they should not be forced to pay dues to the union. 20% of union households in michigan support the right to work law. probably because there's a awful lot of union workers don't go there again the value worth of their dues or supports priorities. they should have a choice, that is their right. lori: we have seen unions lose membership, lot less clout than in generations past. how do you characterize the influence of unions right now? >> it is a competitive marketplace. up through the late 70s the detroit automakers headlock on th
they don't want to have happen to them what happened to general motors or chrysler. yothey make it less profitable r unions. as a result you get more invested and more jobs. jobs are one thing michigan definitely needs. lori: i agree. the unions would argue many of the freedoms, many of the advantages their workers enjoy her because of the lobbies and the history they have had, therefore the unions are deservedly deserve their dues. >> if you can persuade workers to give you their money,...
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it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters and police officers and end mandatory dues for public and private unions. >> brian: people have choices to check the box. we'll listen to governor rick snyder of michigan. >> in the unions are strong in michigan and they did a lot of good in terms of work issues . people wanted to join the union. but today we give the workers a choice and give them an opportunity to say do we want to belong to the union. i don't see it antiunion. workers should want to join and be part. it is a worker choice . the second thing it is economic development. we watched what went on in indiana. they have seen a significant in
it is home to united autoworker and it is ford and gm and chrysler and this changes a lot for the people in michigan. >> gretchen: this is a huge epic fight. the idea that michigan is a right to work state. indiana did it 10 months ago as you know. but there is a gop house and i believe the senate is controllled stunningly by republicans and look at this revolt now. this is similar to what we saw in wisconsin . what will happen with the right to work statute. it will eexempt firefighters...
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what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional chamber of commerce. >> look forward to that. >> we're all going to be there. >> in vermont, you don't need, because of the icy conditions there, a ford raptor, do you? >> oh, you need a raptor. >> i have a hybrid escape. >> raptor's a lot like the escape. >> except it has horrific gas mileage. the raptor. >> oh, the raptor. >> four miles to the gallon. >> escape gets good mileage. >> 31 in the summertime. it's fantastic. >> impressive. >>> still ahead, political analyst richard wolffe. also the president of the university of pennsylvania and author amy guttmann explains why the pe
what's happening with chrysler. what's happening with ford. >> yep. >> i mean, these are companies that are fighting back. >> coming back. >> and it is inspiring. >> they need strong unions. >> let's do a town hall meeting. >> let's do it. that was fun. we did that in new jersey on education. let's do it. >> let's go to detroit and we can talk about this, also how to revive detroit. >> michigan, you did a show for the big detroit regional...
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without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think so. it's your constituents that are paying for the wasteful money. if you're coming here telling your constituents, you really don't -- >> no, look, i'm saying, i'm in favor of accountability. >> the congressman from new jersey needs to speak up for the state. >> i'm in favor of accountability. let me finish. after accountability is built in, will you vote yes or no? >> i will be supportive of slaks once we have the accountability in place. >> good. >> work with me on the accountability, fantastic. >> absolutely. i'll make sure the people in new jersey and new york are not left high and driv
without federal money, chrysler and gm would have gone bust. >> the liquidity. like aig -- >> exactly. let me finish. you talk about it's all wasted. that's not true. that's not true. some of it is well spent. and i think you should answer your question. sandy, not named after me, had a major impact on the east coast. there's been a request for help from the federal government. i'm all in favor of accountability. >> but did you have accountability with katrina? i don't think...
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for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains why. does this mean the gbeginning o a death of unions in the country? do you think it is that big symbolically? >> i think things like this are waking the sleeping giant. i think workers and working families are tired of losing. they want a fair share of the prosperity of this state, and this country, and i think that's going to help build the union movement. >> reporter: -- from this right to work legislation. why are you here? >> that's correct. as of right now we're exempt from this legislation. but it doesn't change the fact that we want to be here to support all our brothers and sisters in the unions
for everyone from public school teachers that are unionized to autoworkers on the line at gm, ford or chrysler. interestingly, though, today, too here, brooke, you had fellow union workers protesting that aren't even part of the legislation. it does not apply to firefighters or police officers. but yet here today we found firefighters who were protesting this saying this is bad for workers across michigan. and nationally. i want you to listen to ted coakley, he's one of those and he explains...
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it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and the legislators prove properly and efficiently and when it arrives on my desk, i plan on signing it. >>. the data and facts from the right to work states show it's right to work for less. it's an effort by the wealthy, by people from the right wing that they want to push wages and benefits down. >> the argument is that it makes the state more competitive and it's going to lead to more jobs, right? >> reporter: right. when you look at the data, what we know is that union workers tepid to make more. pretty significantly more than nonunion workers. a median salary for a union worke
it would affect private workers, but also auto workers at ford, general motors and chrysler. this is very big. it does exclude police and firefighters. but this was passed very quickly. this did not go through a committee. it didn't go through public debate. so democrats are calling this a subversion of the legislative process. i want you to take a listen to the auto workers president who was here protesting yesterday and also the governor rick snider. >> to give freedom of choice to our...
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and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits, retirement. those kinds of things that people would not have had unless they had been represented by a union. and we had strong unions. so those things -- workers were -- gave back in part to make sure that the corporations could maintain or regain stability. and so now just a short three, four, five years later g.m. is back to being the number one carmaker in the world. ms. schakowsky: and all the money has been paid back to the united states treasury. mr. johnson: i think they still owe us a little bit. we still have -- we still have some of g.m. stock, the federal govern
and chrysler and we are going to not let those companies go bankrupt. ms. schakowsky: that was a lot of jobs. mr. johnson: we spent $700 billion and it was the united auto workers union that sat down at the negotiating table with big business, worked out what some may call givebacks. it actually gave up some of the benefits that it had signed contracts for with the employer. these are things that actually created the middle class. things like working days, working hours, wages, benefits,...
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if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right to work is enshrined in michigan and right not to have to pay union duce is ensidelined and that is it a good thing. >> gretchen: to me, it is it the most important state that this has happened in because the autoindustry is such a hunal part of the economy there and the union is so strong there. do you agree with that? >> absolutely it is the home of the autoindustry union and the idea that michigan should revert to being a right to work state, that is it a revolution in the labor market. >> steve: we heard in the run up to the election, while the gm autoworkers wound up keeping their pensions and benefits, it
if you had gm stock or chrysler before the bailout your stock value went to zero. 92 and gm was declared bankrupt. stock holder didn't appeared and in the court stock hold ares got a real hair cut. the union won and the bond holders lost. it is it a title myth the idea that unions saved detroit. >> brian: what about the union workers who say those who are not in the union are free rider will benefit from their bargaining power with the car companies, for example. >> look the right...